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2013-06-16T18:12:41Z

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poor veil..............................................................was he really a goodbeast? or was he like half and half?

According to his [[Brian Jacques|creator]], he was deliberatly meant to be an ambiguous character. His only good act ended his life, and it's important to note that he tried to '''kill''' Byrony previously. It's possible that if he hadn't died, he would have killed her. Such is the way of life. [[User:Docbob|Docbob]] 04:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Um... does anyone know where i can find a particular quote i am looking for? i think its in outcast but i a, not sure. {{unsigned|75.25.43.181
|03:47, 8 November 2007}}

:Well I for one would recommend opening the book up ;) Otherwise you can use the "Search inside!" feature on Amazon.com --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 18:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Weren't there two otter brothers who were always making fun of each other? And then Sunflash impressed them with his strength? I thought they were in Outcast but I can't them or mention of them...-[[User:Segalia |Segalia Riverstorm, Otter Warrior]] [[File:Segalia.png|75 px]] [[User talk:Segalia| Living and writing adventures,1 Cor. 1:7-9]] 14:53, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

[[Folrig Streampaw]] and [[Ruddle Banksnout]]. [[User:The Fivemole|The Fivemole]] [[Image:Grumm.jpg|60px]] [[Message_Wall:The Fivemole|Burr Aye, Gurt Zurrs!!]] 23:42, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

== Outcast of Redwall redirects here. ==

The page is Outcast of Redwall, so there is no redirection. I propose the wording of the hatnote be changed to reflect this and mirror the style of the other books (perhaps something like: ''This article is about the book. For the character given this title, see [[Veil Sixclaw]].''). --[[user:xensyria|xensyria]][[User talk:xensyria|T]] 17:21, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

I LOVED Outcast of Redwall, but when I read Mossflower, though I realized it the book had to problem with characters the story itself, the time period is the only problem. Mossflower ends with Sunflush going to Salamandastron, so in other words, when Outcast of Redwall begins to tell the story of Bryony and her son, Redwall built, they already had charter, Martin and Gonff were redwall's long dead hero, as if this was a later book. But wait! Not until Sunflash goes to Salamandastron are the Redwallers even FREE, so they couldn't have invented the charter, or even the Abbey, well maybe it could be in making, but not old, and Martin and Gonff couldn't be dead, but it does fix one thing, how they treat Veil. In The first Redwall book, Redwall, the redwaller's are extremely angery when Constance said she thought the rats were evil, they thought her judgment was unfair. And in Mossflower, Martin comforts a dying searat.So it says not until Martin lay his sword did the Redwallers find their true calling, so it is possible they didn't have the full charter, and they treated veil differently because he was the son of an evil warlord, ( If makes sense, since Tscarmina was evil like her father, well, even though Verdauga was pretty nice for a warlord, he wasn't perfect, so they thought it right to judge creatures by there birth!

So sorry for the long post, but tell what you think. Maybe was because Brian didn't have the idea for Outcast yet.....Well here I go again, blabbering away!

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2013-06-03T18:44:36Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "Well, Dingeye was trying to kill an Abbey-dweller, it was accident, and running away made sense, I mean, living in Ferahgo crew, stepping out of line meant death! "

Well, Dingeye was trying to kill an Abbey-dweller, it was accident, and running away made sense, I mean, living in Ferahgo crew, stepping out of line meant death!

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2013-06-03T18:42:23Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "Well, yes it was somewhat unusual that he hates Goffa and Klitch instantly, but he still slightly remembers Ferahgo when his parents were killed, so perhaps, since Klitch was ..."

Well, yes it was somewhat unusual that he hates Goffa and Klitch instantly, but he still slightly remembers Ferahgo when his parents were killed, so perhaps, since Klitch was a striking image of his father, he was suspicious of him? But still a agree, it was a little sudden.

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2013-06-03T18:39:33Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "I disagree, some vermin, even though they were cruel, even slightly, cared about the family. Like Flinky the stoat, from Loamhedge, he was part of the crew of Raga Bol, but he..."

I disagree, some vermin, even though they were cruel, even slightly, cared about the family. Like Flinky the stoat, from Loamhedge, he was part of the crew of Raga Bol, but he had a heart. And Sawney, even though perhaps it was only because he was the Taggerung, loved Deyna. Then their is Romsca, no doubt she did some REALLY horrible things in her lifetime, but she was kind her crew.

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2013-06-02T19:58:46Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "Are you kidding, Vilu, was soooo cruel. Just because he wasn't stupid doesn't make him more dangerous! He killed Luke's tribe and laughed over it. And in the end, he did loose..."

Are you kidding, Vilu, was soooo cruel. Just because he wasn't stupid doesn't make him more dangerous! He killed Luke's tribe and laughed over it. And in the end, he did loose control and beg Luke for his life. But-he-was-cruel, much curler then Urgan, or Tramun Clogg, and he was much a better character then Ulbaz! He was some crazy corsair!

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2013-06-02T01:43:53Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "Veil was evil because the redwallers thought he was going to be. It might seem minor but who knows, his life in the abbey was shown briefly, and the Abbeydwellers thought badl..."

Veil was evil because the redwallers thought he was going to be. It might seem minor but who knows, his life in the abbey was shown briefly, and the Abbeydwellers thought badly of him THEN, imagine growing up very young, with so many telling you, "I never liked the looks of this one!" "Just like the the average vermin!" Even though I agree he wasn't good, he did something wish Brian Jacques did more often, he showed why the vermin was evil, he showed his past, so maybe he is gray.

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2013-05-27T00:35:20Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "If Brian jacques wanted to show all vermin were evil by blood, he would have had the redwallers treat Veil kindly, and teach him to overcome his faults, but in the books, they..."

If Brian jacques wanted to show all vermin were evil by blood, he would have had the redwallers treat Veil kindly, and teach him to overcome his faults, but in the books, they are insulting to the young ferret. Their is no redwall book, correct be if I'm wrong, were any creature randomly becomes evil and wants to kill, so what Flinky did is not impulse, if could be fear or bad-heart, but not blood, it's the animal Brian Jacques chooses. No mystery. Tne reason I like Romsca is because she overcame her old life of murder. Not because overcome a mythical vermin personality.

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2013-03-30T16:01:38Z

108.85.137.127: Created page with "I know, I know, this is a very different subject, but please, help! I need the offical jacket summary for The Outcast Of Redwall, and Salmadastron! Thank you, whoever answe..."

I know, I know, this is a very different subject, but please, help!

I need the offical jacket summary for The Outcast Of Redwall, and Salmadastron!

Thank you, whoever answers, but keep in mind, I need it quick, quick, quick!