imported>Thornclaw Braveheart at 13:13, 8 June 2010

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From the description, isn't the giant crossbow used by [[Constance]] and the beaver to kill [[Cheesethief]] a ballista? [[User:FlinkyTheStoat|FlinkyTheStoat]] 15:29, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I thought --[[User:Neildown|Neildown - De Oppresso Liber ]][[image:Neil down.png|60px|]][[User Talk:Neildown| Semper fi ]] 15:39, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's identified as a "giant crossbow". -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 18:43, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

:This is basically a mistake on the part of Jacques; he identifies a catapult in ''Mossflower'' as a ballista, when the actual ballista was the bow used in ''Redwall''. The guy probably just mixed up his siege engines. Frankly, I think we should make this the "official" story and remove all that tripe about "ballista" being the Redwallers' term for a catapult. - [[User:D2r|d2r]] 05:43, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

:No mistake. Read the WP articles on ballistas and catapults. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 18:50, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

:I have, and ballistas do not have throwing arms of the sort Jacques described. TBH I'm putting the ''Mossflower'' "Ballista?!!?1one" bit up to human error on Jacques' part. In any case, the explanation of "Ballista" being the woodlander's name for a catapult strikes me as dubious - wasn't there a catapult at another point in the series? - [[User:D2r|d2r]] 21:31, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

::In both articles, ballistas are described as types of catapults or vice versa. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 03:01, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

:::I still think that's inaccurate, so I'm going to rent a book on siege engines from the library and get back to you. Until that time, I withdraw my complaint. - [[User:D2r|d2r]] 03:08, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Believe me, I'm obcessed with medieval weaponry, and I know that a ballista in real life is a giant crossbow, while the catapult BJ called "ballista" is often called the onager of mangonel. Out Of The Topic: I hope BJ puts a trebuchet in the series one day! Thornclaw --[[User:Thornclaw Braveheart|There's a difference between being a stoat and a vermin...and I proved it to the world.]] 13:13, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

== Adding Info ==

I think that there should be more information on how the billista works and what are its stats( range, what it shoots)etc.--[[User:Steeltooth Slicewind|Steeltooth Slicewind]] 00:03, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

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imported>Thornclaw Braveheart at 13:13, 8 June 2010