imported>WildloughRhulain at 14:13, 10 December 2015

2015-12-10T14:13:35Z

New page

:I don't think Blaggut is a grey character. He is clearly a soft-hearted rat from the outset, which is why he's so abused by his Captain. He is clearly a good guy throughout the book. It is only our expectations that cause us to view him as a bad guy for most of the novel.--[[Special:Contributions/208.255.118.242|208.255.118.242]] 18:10, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

:What you said is precisely what makes him grey. Being a good rat means he is grey. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 03:32, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

:Maybe so, TBT, but he's a good rat, and as such should be regarded as a white character. Yes, he killed Slipp, but that was in revenge for slaying Mellus. Personally, I think that he should be regarded as good. [[User:John-E|John-E]] [[Image:John-E.jpg|50px]] [[User talk:John-E|Tripes and taters!]] [[User:John-E/emailme|Mossflowerrrr!!]] 17:14, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I think the very nature of being a good vermin makes him grey -- no matter his personality. He goes against his "nature".

The last line, that he is one of the most interesting and ponderable characters -- why is that there? It seems like conjecture to me, and certainly has no evidence to support it.--[[User:Tiberuvsky|Tiberuvsky]] 14:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

:This is correct, and the line was removed. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 23:11, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

it is widely agreed on [[User:Lordsunflash|Lordsunflash]] 17:35, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

By whom, is the problem. Simply stating it doesn't make it true. Veil doesn't have that note, but his is a much more in-depth examination of "good vermin", therefore more deserving of the "ponderable" label. But, even then, a lack of proof that either are discussed at any length.--[[User:Tiberuvsky|Tiberuvsky]] 17:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

veil is in no way a "good vermin" as he was only good five seconds before he dies and that doesn't really count but if you have read the book blaggut is clearly a nice and good vermin which is what makes him so interesting of a character [[User:Lordsunflash|Lordsunflash]] 17:46, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I have read the book. Blaggut is examined in a much more simplistic manner than Veil, whose story is a classic rehash of the "nature vs. nurture" debate. That, and the conscience that Veil carries with him throughout the story, are what make Outcast's story compelling. And my point stands: you've convinced me that you find Blaggut ponderable, but not that it's a widespread phenomenon. --[[User:Tiberuvsky|Tiberuvsky]] 17:58, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Take the Veil discussion to the [[Talk:Veil Sixclaw|Veil Sixclaw talk]], please. This page is to discuss [[Blaggut]]. Thanks! [[User:Hollyfire53|Holly Thornblade]][[User blog:Hollyfire53/The Ultimate War|The War to End All Wars- Have You Joined?]] 17:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

i looked and this was put up by [[User:FlinkyTheStoat]] quite a while ago [[User:Lordsunflash|Lordsunflash]] 18:12, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

:Yeah, well, it was a long time ago and I was a lot younger. Nowadays it's unlikely I'd make an edit that subjective and non-verifiable. Then again, it's been a long time since I last cracked open a ''Redwall'' book, so it's unlikely I'd make an edit at all. It's been a long time, hasn't it? [[User:FlinkyTheStoat|FlinkyTheStoat]] 05:50, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Blaggut - Revision history

imported>WildloughRhulain at 14:13, 10 December 2015