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== Gray characters ==

I think Dingeye and Thura should Count as Gray characters. They only killed one beast, and that was a pure accident. They were polite and friendly, especially for Vermin. [[User:Megadracosaurus|Megadracosaurus]] ([[User talk:Megadracosaurus|talk]]) 08:15, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure. They were definitely vermin, in Ferhago's Corpsemakers, and they hadn't exactly done any 'good' act, like you might say Blaggut did. Although they were probably nicer than some vermin, they never really did anything good and Dingeye was pretty mean to Thura, just saying. [[User:Vaylayna the Shade|Vaylayna and]] [[User:Vaylayna the Shade|Rosebrush]] [[User talk:Vaylayna the Shade|Together!]] 08:20, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
:This perspective nails it. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 14:37, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Wait so they aren't grey characters? The categories were added back. --[[User:Vaylayna the Shade|Vaylayna and]] [[User:Vaylayna the Shade|Rosebrush]] [[Image:Vaylayna and Rosebrush.jpg| 50px | ]] [[User talk:Vaylayna the Shade|Together!]] 10:05, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

::No, they're not grey characters. Neither Dingeye nor Thura ever did a single act of good. For the same reason, we don't class Sneezewort and Lousewort as grey characters just because they deserted the horde they were members of. Arguably, most vermin hold a similar unaggressive, simply self-preserving mentality, but that does not make them grey characters. A grey character is usually a vermin who ''went out of its way to be good''. Loafing around, mooching off the Redwallers' hospitality and constantly complaining about being required to help out around the abbey... doesn't quite fit the bill. Simply traveling to the Abbey as a vermin and not committing a negative act does not make a character inherently ''good''. [[File:Biggrensignature.gif|64px|link=User:Biggren]]([[User talk:Biggren|Tuûr!]]) 19:11, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

He left Thura to die alone. I think he counts as a villain because of this. And yes, also for reasons stated above, but the fact that he left Thura to suffer on his own puts him more firmly in the villain category than Thura imo. [[User:BirdOfBlueFeathers22|BirdOfBlueFeathers22]] ([[User talk:BirdOfBlueFeathers22|talk]]) 06:18, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

== Question ==
What exactly does "mucker" mean anyway? --[[User:Snowstripe the Fierce|Snowstripe]] [[Image:Urthstripe.jpg| 45px | ]][[User talk:Snowstripe the Fierce|You're always welcome at my mountain.]] 19:32, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's just a term for "friend", or "matey". [[User:TheTragedyofE|TheTragedyofE]] [[User talk:TheTragedyofE|Think, and then decide. ]] 21:08, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

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