imported>LordTBT: /* Hate to reopen the debate... */

2008-05-18T20:57:52Z

Hate to reopen the debate...

New page

==Hate to reopen the debate...==
But I believe, from context, that Mangiz was referring to him as being wet, or having been thrown into the pond, not dead. The line before the previously mentioned one was (from Ironbeak): "Maybe they are both hiding underwater in that pool. Shall I throw you in so you can find out?" Mangiz replies: "The stripedog has already done that, by the look of Grubclaw," (as in, "the stripedog has already thrown Grubclaw in."

Also, it never mentions anything during the battle immediantely prior to Constance ever having killed him. It mentions "She bulled the first one straight into the pond". It also states there were three attackers. In addition, it talks about the vanquishing of all three rooks. And it mentions they all flew back to the dormatories... thoughts? Thanks. ''--[[User:Lord Mactalon|Lord Mactalon]] 18:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)''

:It is all very vague. I think the article handles it just fine. --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 20:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Constance did kill him. When in doubt, check the book ;) --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 16:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

:His death is mentioned by another villain. --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 22:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

::Huh? Where? I've re-read and re-read everything, but can't find it. [[User:???|???]] 10:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

:::Page 363, US hardcover edition: ''"The stripedog has already done that, by the look of Grubclaw," Mangiz interrupted.'' --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 17:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh. I never knew that meant he died. Silly me. I thought it meant he was all wet. [[User:???|???]] 08:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

But according to Snowfur's Redwall Encyclopedia, he didn't die. [[User:???|???]] 06:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Or at least he didn't die ''then''. [[User:???|???]] 06:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:Snowfur obviously misread the book, because the quotation is right there. And Snowfur's website is outdated, no longer reliable. --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 14:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh well. It never is directly said he died though. I've always assumed "he's was all wet" was what Mangiz meant. [[User:???|???]] 11:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Grubclaw - Revision history

imported>LordTBT: /* Hate to reopen the debate... */