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		<title>imported&gt;SalemtheCruel at 19:15, 26 December 2011</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Weapon===&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&amp;#039;t think his weapon can be assumed based on his name whatsoever. Please comment. --[[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 20:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I don&amp;#039;t think so either. For instance: Damug Warfang was a character, but his main weapons were not his fangs. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[User:Lord Mactalon|Lord Mactalon]] 20:10, 4 May 2008 (UTC)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::True, but consider Asmodeus Poisonteeth and Vallug Bowbeast. However, in this case, I doubt Mortspear affirms spears as his weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you consider that being a king his spear could have been his symbol of office?&lt;br /&gt;
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== King Mortspear ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can it be assumed that King Mortspear is a villian? He is the father of Ungatt Trunn and Verdauga, but we don&amp;#039;t know enough about him to know he was a bad guy.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Sandingomm the Wildcat|Sandingomm the Wildcat]] 19:34, January 7, 2011 (UTC)Sandingomm the Wildcat&lt;br /&gt;
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:So you think King &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mort&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;spear was a kindly, gentle old wildcat? -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:21, January 8, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, but he was an ancestor of Gingivere as well as Tsarmina and Ungatt Trunn.Sandingomm the Wildcat[[User:Sandingomm the Wildcat|Sandingomm the Wildcat]] 22:41, January 14, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well I would think to go under villain he would have to be an antagonist. also Spear&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;lady&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Gorse need I say more. [[User:Lordsunflash|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Lord Sunflash&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]  [[User talk:Lordsunflash|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I am always watching!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:To discuss another character, please use [[Talk:Spearlady Gorse|that talk page]]. It&amp;#039;s fair to identify Mortspear as a villain (and subsequent villain leader) in the same way it&amp;#039;s fair to attribute those characteristics to [[Rigvar Skurr]]. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:02, January 8, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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True, but we know Rigvar Skurr &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;was&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; a bad guy from what Gonff tells us. [[User:Sandingomm the Wildcat|Sandingomm the Wildcat]] 22:43, January 14, 2011 (UTC)Sandingomm the Wildcat&lt;br /&gt;
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Well I should point out that s/he isn&amp;#039;t named a female because there are no references of her being one other than his/her name. Yet you are saying that King Mortspear is a villain because his name implies it, yet there is no page that says he was evil. Either take the villain part off of his page or put female on his/her page. [[User:Lordsunflash|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Lord Sunflash&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]  [[User talk:Lordsunflash|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I am always watching!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, you state at the top of this page that we can&amp;#039;t assume he used a spear because of his name. Yet, as I say above, he is listed as a villain because of his name alone.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;King&amp;quot; is not part of his name. &amp;quot;King&amp;quot; is an official title for a male sovereign. The title identifies his gender, the same way the title &amp;quot;Lord&amp;quot; identifies Lord Brocktree and Lord Verdauga as male. Mortspear&amp;#039;s presence in Trunn&amp;#039;s list of titles identifies his loyalties in terms of good/evil. An evil wildcat such as Trunn lists his father because clearly, Mortspear is also known for his not-so-good ways. Parallel this to Tsarmina REMOVING Verdauga from her list of titles. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 01:26, January 15, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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When I said s/he I was referring to Spearlady gorse and how their names have simmilair arguments over them. But I&amp;#039;m still a bit confused on your explaination of why he&amp;#039;s evil. How exactly does his name being in Trunn&amp;#039;s list of titles have to do with his father&amp;#039;s morality. I always thought of that being because he didn&amp;#039;t want to be compared to his father, in fact I believe he went to Salamandastron because he wanted to make his own kingdom and not just take controls of Mortspear&amp;#039;s. [[User:Lordsunflash|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Lord Sunflash&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]  [[User talk:Lordsunflash|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I am always watching!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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