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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;d like to know what is the order of the grades. Is a colonel more important than a lieutenant? than a corporal? etc...&lt;br /&gt;
who order who? What are the links between each rank?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Torn. The grades are in the correct order, in terms of importance. Jacques based the hares on World War II British Navy I believe, so in terms of relevance, that&amp;#039; the link. Higher levels infer more responsibility. --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] 15:05, 15 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Airforce actually&lt;br /&gt;
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::I knew it was some form of the British military ;) --[[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] 17:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Numbers==&lt;br /&gt;
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300 under Urthstripe? Accuracy? -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What is the difference between a Galloper and a Runner? &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Wild Doogy Plumm&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; [[Image:DoogyPlumm.PNG|40px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Probably none, just inconsistent names. --[[User:Martin2|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;olive&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:saffron&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Martin II&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:wiki.png|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;olive&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:saffron&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 17:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== long Patrol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn&amp;#039;t it say in Lord Brocktree that bucko Bigbones and his hares would become a northern part of the Long Patrol? [[Special:Contributions/68.211.80.9|68.211.80.9]] 17:00, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Blizzard6654&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that I recall. --[[User:Martin2|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;olive&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:saffron&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Martin II&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:wiki.png|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;olive&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:saffron&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 17:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I remember him saying that he would make a Northern branch. Though if we were to make a section about it, only he would probably be listed. ---[[User:Clockworthy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Goldenrod &amp;quot;&amp;gt;Clockworthy&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Madmaudie.jpg| 70px]] [[User talk:Clockworthy |&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;From Clockworth to Eternity, or wherever my stories lie&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 22:38, November 9, 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What makes thistledown and starbob significant as archers?  True they were archers, but that was not a designated position like Galloper, and they were not exclusively archers.  Additionally, many of the LP hares in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Salamandastron&amp;#039;&amp;#039; were archers, and no extra importnace was plced on these two&amp;#039;s archery {{unsigned|99.98.209.91|03:05, May 28, 2010}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair point. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 19:09, June 1, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&amp;#039;t there be a separate level/section for the Blademasters?-[[User:Segalia |&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red &amp;quot;&amp;gt;Segalia Riverstorm &amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[File:Segalia2.png|75 px]] [[User talk:Segalia| &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;crimson&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Beware &amp;#039;cause I&amp;#039;m about to go into fullblown Bloodwrath!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 18:30, May 30, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, because it&amp;#039;s not really a rank. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 19:09, June 1, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Me &amp;#039;ero growin&amp;#039; up wuz Big Oxeye and Sergeant Sapwood!! --[[User:Skipper Jayrado|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Blue &amp;quot;&amp;gt;Skipper Jayrado &amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] Image:grath longfletch3.jpg| 75px |  [[User talk:Skipper Jayrado |&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;yellow&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 18:00, June 1, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What exactly is a subaltern and should they be here?-[[User:Segalia |&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red &amp;quot;&amp;gt;Selra, Fox Warrioress &amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[File:Segalia2.png|75 px]] [[User talk:Segalia| &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;crimson&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Decisions, decisions:to kill you or not? Good or bad?&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:56, September 14, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[Wikipedia:Subaltern|Subaltern]]. As a separate section? No. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 03:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article Problem ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The discussion page on the book Long Patrol links to the discussion page on the Salamandastron force. [[User: Taggerung of Redwall|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Taggerung Warrior of Redwall&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 04:23, August 20, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Fixed. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:52, August 20, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Battle Cries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was wondering, would it be fu nay if a battle cry of the Long Patrol was Wot, Wwwwwooooootttttttt!!!--[[User:Amesco|Amesco]] 02:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would a redirect from Stonepaw&amp;#039;s Stalwarts be useful?-[[User:Segalia |&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red &amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:Silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Segalia Riverstorm, Otter Warrior&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[File:Segalia.png|75 px]] [[User talk:Segalia| &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;crimson&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Living and writing adventures,1 Cor. 1:7-9&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 03:14, May 2, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&amp;#039;t think so, as no one will be searching for that. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:37, May 2, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Names ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For the article names of these hares, should the rank be included in the bold or not?  [[Dorothea Duckfontein Dillworthy]] and [[Bucko Bigbones]] are examples of both of these.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, should the rank be included in the title of the article? (see [[Brigadier Thyme]])  [[User:The Fivemole|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Fivemole&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Grumm.jpg|60px]] [[Message_Wall:The Fivemole|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Burr Aye, Gurt Zurrs!!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 03:38, September 27, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Everything is fine as-is. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:38, September 27, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rank question ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where does Marshall stand in the ranks? Is it higher up than Colonel? Just wondering. I&amp;#039;m not saying to add it, because Meldrum Fallowthorn was the only Marshall I can remember. And was he evenin the Long Patrol wasn&amp;#039;t he in a specialized unit or something?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Meldrum was not a member of the Long Patrol, so this does not apply. -- [[User:LordTBT|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LordTBT&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot; size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk!&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:11, July 12, 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, if he wasn&amp;#039;t, then what group was he in? I mean, he kind of had to be, if he was a Field Marshall. -- --[[User:Snowstripe the Fierce|You&amp;amp;#39;re always welcome at my mountain. &amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;file:Defenders.jpg&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;]] ([[User talk:Snowstripe the Fierce|talk]]) 17:19, July 13, 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a rule of thumb, we don&amp;#039;t assume things on articles here. Having rank does not necessarily one a Long Patroller make. Why would being a Field Marshal have anything to do with the Long Patrol? &amp;quot;Field Marshal&amp;quot; was never mentioned to be a rank in the Long Patrol, hence:&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*Assumption: Field Marshal is a rank in the Long Patrol.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*Conclusion: Therefore, being the Field Marshal that he is, this by default implies that Meldrum is a member of the Long Patrol.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*Assumption: Meldrum is a member of the Long Patrol. Meldrum is a Field Marshal.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*Conclusion: Therefore, Field Marshal must be a rank in the Long Patrol.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Do you notice a common trend in this reasoning?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Between you&amp;#039;n me, the rank apparently was self-bestowed, just as he had fabricated the events of battles he&amp;#039;d been in, and the medals corresponding to each battle were also invented on the fly. He was consistently shown to be a comedic fraud in the book, and no mention in the book is ever made to provide for him having served in the Long Patrol. [[File:Biggrensignature.gif|64px|link=User:Biggren]]([[User talk:Biggren|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tuûr!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]) 22:18, July 13, 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ohhh. Now that makes sense. After re-reading &amp;#039;&amp;#039;the Bellmaker&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, I noticed he referred to his nephews as his troops, and he ave all his medals and awards to himself. --[[User:Snowstripe the Fierce|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFFF00;text-shadow:#0101DF 3px 3px 3px;font-family:Chalkduster;font-size:16px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Snowstripe&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:Urthstripe.jpg| 45px | ]][[User talk:Snowstripe the Fierce|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFBF00;text-shadow:#0101DF 3px 3px 3px;font-family:Impact;font-size:16px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;You&amp;#039;re always &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFFF00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;welcome &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFBF00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;at my mountain.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:46, August 20, 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;d &amp;#039;&amp;#039;swear&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Long Patrol was at least &amp;#039;&amp;#039;mentioned&amp;#039;&amp;#039; by Rosie or Tarquin... [[User:Alderjack the Treescamp|Alderjack the Treescamp]] ([[User talk:Alderjack the Treescamp|talk]]) 15:47, May 6, 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;m pretty sure the lp is mentioned in &amp;quot;The Bellmaker&amp;quot; what with Hon Rosie, the other redwall hare dude and the other hare down south who had relatives in the long patrol or something. I don&amp;#039;t know for sure though.... [[User:Bludrigg|Bludrigg]] ([[User talk:Bludrigg|talk]]) 00:21, May 11, 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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