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For uncertainty, Martin the Elder's father's name could be Martin as well.

it's possible, although if that was the case, then why wasn't Luke named Martin? also, I remember reading somewhere that the sword was originally forged for this Martin, as the Elder Warrior was the first warrior in the family. or that might have been Luke's grandsire. --[[User:Sstabeler|Sstabeler]] 19:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Well Just because someone used the sword before Luke did doesn't mean that it was Martin the Elder's father. It could have been stolen. --[[User:Martin2|Martin II]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You dare challenge ''me''?]] 13:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

possible, but I think in The legend Of Luke, it says somehting about Luke recieving the sword from his father, who was also a warrior, and it implies, was the first warrior in the family IIRC.--[[User:Sstabeler|Sstabeler]] 13:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Also, I was pretty sure it said the sword was forged for Martin the Elder warrior in Legend of Luke. Also, when did anything say Luke was the third to wield it?--[[User:Martin2|Martin II]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You dare challenge ''me''?]] 13:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

:Quite simple. Martin the Elder: Wielder 1. Luke: Wielder 2. Martin the Warrior: Wielder 3. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 18:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

actually, I said Luke received it from Martin the Elder Warrior, who was the first warrior in the family. it said Martin the Warrior ( as in, the grandson of the Elder Warrior) was the third to wield it, I can't remember where. I haven't read the redwall books in a while. --[[User:Sstabeler|Sstabeler]] 14:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Why is it more logical to be Martin's grandfather....?--[[Special:Contributions/71.209.11.75|71.209.11.75]] 21:28, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

3 wielders includsing martin, Luke said he recieved it from his ftaher, logicla conclusion- Luke's father was weilder 1. --[[User:Sstabeler|Sstabeler]] 16:46, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Where does it say there were only three?--[[Special:Contributions/71.209.15.93|71.209.15.93]] 22:03, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

:It doesn't say there were only three. The Legend of Luke, Chapter 17. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 01:59, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think they should just finally make a book out of it kinda like Legend of Luke they could make it Martins secret journey.

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I was reading my Firebird issue of the book. On Page 154, this Martin is labeled Luke's grandsire. On page 373, Germaine says that he's the grandsire of the more well-known Martin. I have a possible explanation for it- she shortened the relationship title. Reason is, it happens to be a common practice in my family- always called my great-grandmother "grandma", my great aunts and uncles just aunt and uncle, and as for those second/first-once-removed cousins, I just call them cousins. So, it's possible Germaine did something similar in regards to Martin and his elder namesake. [[User:Alockwood1|Alockwood1]] ([[User talk:Alockwood1|talk]]) 20:36, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

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