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==On Swans==

[[Blacktooth]] and [[Splitnose]] both threw spears at a swan in ''Mossflower''. This counts as a "slay" attempt. They are Grey Characters in that we do not know whether they are truly "good" or "bad". Sure they are defensive, but that doesn't mean they're bad characters. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 22:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

==Right!==
They're protecting their children/eggchicks [[User:Shieldmaiden |Shieldmaiden ]] [[Image:Matthias2.JPG| 70px | ]] [[User talk:Shieldmaiden |Talk!]] 19:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== I don't think the grey character tag applies for swans. ==

If a swan or any creature's fighting back in self-defense, I don't think they'd be considered a grey character. How can a swan be "grey" if it's simply trying to protect itself and its young? Many Redwallers/goodbeasts killed in self-defense and weren't considered grey characters for doing it. If anything that fights back in self-defense is going to be labeled "grey," I think almost every goodbeast from the books would be listed here too. --[[User:WildloughRhulain |WildloughRhulain ]] [[File:Tiria.JPG|20px|]] [[User talk:WildloughRhulain |Taste stones!]] 04:30, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
:It's the fact that they are fighting in defense against good and bad characters, and good and bad characters are afraid of them. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 04:53, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

guess their character tag can only be opinionated since they can not be truly evil but can be good so I think they fit into the good/gray category. --ZoSo159 00:22, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

== Why ==

Why not put this under birds {{unsigned|Richard Starkey|00:41, March 4, 2011}}
:This is categorized under birds. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 02:25, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Whyyyy is this under the category of recurring characters? {{unsigned|Bludrigg|17:12, May 11, 2017}}
:This article covers "Swans", as an entity. Swans recur throughout the series. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 22:38, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

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imported>LordTBT at 22:38, 11 May 2017