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Would a list of all of the known (or named) characters that have been slain by the sword be of any use? If so, I'll make one.--[[User:Verminfate|Verminfate]] 05:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[[Image:Sabretache.jpg|65px|]][[User talk:Verminfate|You have trezpazzed on ze landz of Valkarano!]]

Did Mariel ever use the Sword of Martin? And even if she used it once, does that make her a wielder? It just means she used it. --[[User:Martin2|Martin2]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg| 45px | ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You seek audience with The Hooded One? ]] 02:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:To wield is to use. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 03:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I think that would be smart Valkarano.--[[User:danthemanb|Please read Elmtails tail I'm Danthemanb aka]][[User Talk:danthemanb| Communicate with me ]] 04:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Martin's Shield. ==

Whatever happened to Martin's Shield? After Matthias, the shield seems to have disappeared. Was there any particular information in the series I overlooked pertaining to the modern location of the shield? If not, my guess is that it was buried with Matthias.

[[User:Thurrn the Ranger|Thurrn the Ranger]] 18:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

In Mattimeo it talked about the full armor of MTW except for the sword. I guess it all just sat there in the gatehouse and was never used again, like Finbar's swords.--[[User:Martin2|Martin II]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You dare challenge ''me''?]] 22:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

That's one thing about BJ's works, he doesn't seem to be consistent with some stuff. Oh, well, I heard he only gets like, four to five months to write each book, so that is understandable. --[[User:MERLOCK| Merlock/chaos]] [[User Talk:MERLOCK|Talk to me! PLEEASE! ]] 00:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your replies!

[[User:Thurrn the Ranger|Thurrn the Ranger]] 12:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It's got to be more than that. But still, it's got to be hard to remember all the details. --[[User:Martin2|Martin II]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You dare challenge ''me''?]] 13:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Most inconsistencies are between Redwall and the other books in the series. It might be because he may not have been planing to write a series afer it when he originally wrote it. I don't know if that's right, but thats what I've always thought.--[[User:Gandr Adderbane|Gandr Adderbane]] 02:19, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

== Wasn't ==

The leafwood found in the gatehouse?

Wow. You could outfit an army!

I CALL DIBS ON FINNBARR'S SWORDS!!

--[[User:Shieldmaiden |Shieldmaiden ]] [[Image:Zara whatisit.png| 85px]] [[User talk:Shieldmaiden |Tell Me Something I Don't Know!]] 13:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, the gatehouse was supposed to be the Warrior's Home so it makes sense, dosen't it? --[[User:Martin2|Martin II]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You dare challenge ''me''?]] 13:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Only Matthias'. Martin never lived there, only librarians. [[User:Shieldmaiden |Shieldmaiden ]] [[Image:Zara whatisit.png| 85px]] [[User talk:Shieldmaiden |Tell Me Something I Don't Know!]] 13:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

When the Abbey was built it was supposed to be that. SO I guess they put stuff in there for that reason. --[[User:Martin2|Martin II]] [[Image:For MArtin2 copy.jpg|45px ]][[User Talk:Martin2|You dare challenge ''me''?]] 13:43, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

== Description (lack of) ==

What type of sword is it? Broadsword? Longsword? The pictures that start the chapters are conflicting. Does it say anywhere?--[[User:Gandr Adderbane|Gandr Adderbane]] 02:24, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it ever did... But I always imagined it as a broadsword considering it always talked about it's huge size, but don't take my word as fact, I haven't read the books in a while. --[[User:MERLOCK| The Hunted One]] [[Image:Merlock the second!.jpg|40px]][[User Talk:MERLOCK|Turn not against me! ]] 01:26, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

As my essay The Length of Martin's Sword says, the sword is commonly illustrated as a short weapon. Only the Firebird cover of Redwall and Rakkety Tam show it's (probably) real length. Oh, and the difference between a broadsword and a longsword is that the broadsword has a larger blade, is normally longer, and has a smaller handle. Thornclaw --[[User:Thornclaw Braveheart|There's a difference between being a stoat and a vermin...and I proved it to the world.]] 16:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a simple straight claymore or short broadsword, myself; it can't be very long because it is described as being a bit short for the otter [[Deyna]] when he weilds it.

'''--Scotty Bluefleck, Mountain Hare from the Highlands [[File:Scotty_Bluefleck,_Mountain_Hare.jpg|50px]] Matt 25:40''' 19:47, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Same here as Scottyblue.--[[User:Amesco|Amesco]] 22:56, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

== "Ratdeath"? ==

I remember that Mortimer called the blade Ratdeath, but...does anyone ever use that name again? Because I can only remember it being referred to as "Martin's Sword" in all subsequent books. - [[User:D2r|d2r]] 18:36, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
:No, just Redwall. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 18:50, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Would it be unecassary to put in a redirect from Ratdeath to Sword of Martin? Nothing comes up if you type in Ratdeath, so...just a thought.

--[[User:Long Patrol Girl|Long Patrol Girl ]][[Image:Kailee Pic LPG.jpg|30px]] [[User talk:Long Patrol Girl|"Fish and Chips!!"]] 01:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

:Go for it. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[User talk:LordTBT|Talk!]] 07:21, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

==I'm Confused==

Where in [[Mattimeo (book)|Mattimeo]] does it say [[Slagar the Cruel|Slagar]] used the sword? I saw his name on the list but I just read that book recently and I don't remember seeing anything of that sort. I'm assuming it was somewhere in the scene in the underground realm?

'''--Scotty Bluefleck, Mountain Hare from the Highlands [[File:Scotty_Bluefleck,_Mountain_Hare.jpg|50px]] Matt 25:40''' 20:29, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

How could Asmodeus have wielded the sword of Martin?! He doesn't have any arms!!! XD
[[User:SalemtheCruel|Vilaya]] [[User Talk:SalemtheCruel|I NEED some cake!]] 18:44, September 2, 2011 (UTC)SalemtheCruel

Asmodeus OWNED the sword of Martin. That is it.
--[[User:Mewtworules|Mewtworules]] 15:51, November 22, 2011 (UTC)Felazar Raxiz

Why is listed as a known wielder of the sword then? He never killed anybody with it, so he did not wield it. Same thing with several others listed as "wielders" of the sword. {{unsigned|24.28.30.178|18:37, December 8, 2011}}
:I would encourage you to find a dictionary, and look up "wield." "To kill with" is not a definition of the word. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 00:16, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

== Martin's Armor ==

Continuing the Discussion on the Shield of Martin, would it be useful to create a page involving the rest of the armor besides the sword? We can link to the sword and just describe the rest of it using descriptions from the book like when Cornflower used it...-[[User:Segalia |Segalia Riverstorm, Otter Warrior]] [[File:Segalia.png|75 px]] [[User talk:Segalia| Living and writing adventures,1 Cor. 1:7-9]] 23:23, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

:Considering it only appears in ''Redwall'', no. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 01:35, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Does it only appear in Redwall? What about Mattimeo, when Cornflower wears it? Besides, [[Kisser|These]] [[Blademaster's Medal|only]] [[Shrewgoo|appear]] [[Great Summer Candle|once]]. Why is the armor any different from them? -- [[User:The Fivemole|The Fivemole]] [[Image:Grumm.jpg|60px]] [[Message_Wall:The Fivemole|Talk!]] 01:01, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

This would be a small article if it were made, so it would not be much trouble. Someone who came to this site would not know about the armor unless it was stated. -- -[[User:The Fivemole |The Fivemole, Mole Warrior]] [[File:Grumm.jpg|75 px]] [[User talk:The Fivemole| Living and writing adventures,1 Cor. 1:7-9]] 23:23, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
:Has nothing to do with the difficulty of creating an article - articles are only created based on necessity. The armor is directly related to this particular object, which is what differs it from all the other objects. There's no information about it other than Martin wore it and it appeared - that's also not worth creating the article. It's worth a mention in this article, that's about it. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 04:45, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps a redirect page, for Wirga's sons go to Wirga. She was the closest thing to them. [[User:The Fivemole|The Fivemole]] [[Image:Grumm.jpg|60px]] [[Message_Wall:The Fivemole|Burr Aye, Gurt Zurrs!!]] 14:49, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

:Martin the Warrior's article is not hard to locate, neither is this one. Not seeing it. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 23:07, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, if you are sure people can find it.
'''--The Fivemole, Mountain Mole from the Moledeep [[File:Grumm.jpg|60px]] Matt 25:40'''23:19, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

You'd think there would be more people slain by the Sword of Martin.--[[User:Alderjack the Treescamp|Alderjack the Treescamp]] ([[User talk:Alderjack the Treescamp|talk]]) 18:56, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Well, there was, when you think about it. They just weren't named characters. --[[User:Reep the Warrior|Reep Lightingflash - ]][[User talk:Reep the Warriorg|Anybody got cheese?]] 00:55, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Wait a minute, how did he get the words "I am that is" written on the blade? I mean, in ''Mossflower'', Boar didn't do it, so how is that posible? Martin never even knew who Matthias was or would become! And why did the Redwallers put the sword on the roof anyway? It would just make it harder for them to get it when they needed it. --[[User:Snowstripe the Fierce|Snowstripe]] [[Image:Urthstripe.jpg| 45px | ]][[User talk:Snowstripe the Fierce|You're always welcome at my mountain.]] 16:30, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Could the blade be made of Kamacite? That's a metal found in meteorites. - --[[User:Snowstripe the Fierce|Snowstripe]] [[Image:Urthstripe.jpg| 45px | ]][[User talk:Snowstripe the Fierce|You're always welcome at my mountain.]] 23:06, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

== Silver crosspiece ==

What about the silver crosspiece? It was described in ''Redwall''. --[[User:Lukas Exemplar|Lukas Exemplar]] ([[User talk:Lukas Exemplar|talk]]) 16:47, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

== “…one more mission…” ==

What mission after ''[[The Legend of Luke]]'' does this refer to? I don’t recall any material depicting Martin going on another journey. [[User:Kilmarnock228|Kilmarnock228]] ([[User talk:Kilmarnock228|talk]]) 07:06, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

:Re-read ''Doomwyte''. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 09:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

::Are we sure about the timing on that though? From what I can recall I feel like that journey could have been set between ''Mossflower'' and ''The Legend of Luke''. It would certainly be a handy way of resolving that plot hole with the sword on the weathervane if it did happen after ''The Legend of Luke'', but how can we be sure?[[User:Kilmarnock228|Kilmarnock228]] ([[User talk:Kilmarnock228|talk]]) 04:44, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

:::Yes. The Legend of Luke take's place during the construction of the Abbey. Columbine's account occurs after. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 17:41, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

== Jum Gurdy ==

Did Jum actually get to wield the sword? He used the stave to kill Razzid. {{unsigned|Leapusthecow|14:50, 3 June 2026}}

:Keep reading that exact page and see what he does next. -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 16:15, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

:: (sorry I forgot my evil kumquat again somehow) I see, thanks! (he just picks it up and says its cool wow) [[User:Leapusthecow|Leapus]][[User:Leapusthecow|the]][[User:Leapusthecow|cow]] | [[Message_Wall:Leapusthecow|Talk with me!]] 14:31, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

:::Keep reading...he does more than that. :) -- [[User:LordTBT|LordTBT]] [[Image:Tbtico.jpg]] [[Message_Wall:LordTBT|Talk!]] 17:49, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

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