Talk:Martin the Elder Warrior

For uncertainty, Martin the Elder's father's name could be Martin as well.

it's possible, although if that was the case, then why wasn't Luke named Martin? also, I remember reading somewhere that the sword was originally forged for this Martin, as the Elder Warrior was the first warrior in the family. or that might have been Luke's grandsire. --Sstabeler 19:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Well Just because someone used the sword before Luke did doesn't mean that it was Martin the Elder's father. It could have been stolen. --Martin II File:For MArtin2 copy.jpgYou dare challenge me? 13:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

possible, but I think in The legend Of Luke, it says somehting about Luke recieving the sword from his father, who was also a warrior, and it implies, was the first warrior in the family IIRC.--Sstabeler 13:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Also, I was pretty sure it said the sword was forged for Martin the Elder warrior in Legend of Luke. Also, when did anything say Luke was the third to wield it?--Martin II File:For MArtin2 copy.jpgYou dare challenge me? 13:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Quite simple. Martin the Elder: Wielder 1. Luke: Wielder 2. Martin the Warrior: Wielder 3. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 18:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

actually, I said Luke received it from Martin the Elder Warrior, who was the first warrior in the family. it said Martin the Warrior ( as in, the grandson of the Elder Warrior) was the third to wield it, I can't remember where. I haven't read the redwall books in a while. --Sstabeler 14:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Why is it more logical to be Martin's grandfather....?--71.209.11.75 21:28, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

3 wielders includsing martin, Luke said he recieved it from his ftaher, logicla conclusion- Luke's father was weilder 1. --Sstabeler 16:46, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Where does it say there were only three?--71.209.15.93 22:03, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't say there were only three. The Legend of Luke, Chapter 17. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 01:59, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think they should just finally make a book out of it kinda like Legend of Luke they could make it Martins secret journey.

Relationship title shortened

I was reading my Firebird issue of the book. On Page 154, this Martin is labeled Luke's grandsire. On page 373, Germaine says that he's the grandsire of the more well-known Martin. I have a possible explanation for it- she shortened the relationship title. Reason is, it happens to be a common practice in my family- always called my great-grandmother "grandma", my great aunts and uncles just aunt and uncle, and as for those second/first-once-removed cousins, I just call them cousins. So, it's possible Germaine did something similar in regards to Martin and his elder namesake. Alockwood1 (talk) 20:36, May 27, 2013 (UTC)