Talk:Bella of Brockhall

I think Bella is older than Lady Cregga, afterall, she was already said to be old when we read about her in the book Mossflower, and she was still alive at the time of Gonff's grandson and son. Cregga was described as being in her middle-ages while she ruled Salamandastrom, although she survived four or five generations after.

May Streamdog Holt Lutrraaaaaaa!:May Streamdog|Holt Lutrraaaaaa! 12:21, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I know this is old, but after seeing your point, I agree. I hadn't been sure, as it all would depend on how long Bella lived before Mossflower and after Outcast. We know Bella lived four generations at the least, as Abbess Byrony was Gonff's great granddaughter, but maybe even five because she was alive when Verdauga Greeneyes took over, and he drove out the tribe of Luke the Warrior who was a generation older than Martin who was around Gonff's age. But Cregga lived through 7 generations of Spearbacks (Drogg was Gurgan's great-grandson, and Egburt and Floburt were his grandchildren) however the only mystery age we have is pre-TLP. So Cregga has a definite 7 generations, and Bella has 5, but Bella has more "mystery time" to fill in, meaning she's probably older. Sam8432 (talk) 01:29, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Appearing in Vision

Not sure how she's able to appear in a vision to her son when she's not dead...maybe because Sunflash presumes she is, she's able to? AsmodeusTheAdder03 (talk) 18:13, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

What are you referring to? Do you have a chapter number? -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 01:00, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Chapter 8. AsmodeusTheAdder03 06:22, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

That's clearly a dream, not a vision. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk!

But it comes almost right after the scene with Boar etc., which you said is a vision when I wrote about it being a dream. That's kind of confusing AsmodeusTheAdder03 (talk)

Do you not find it confusing too? I mean you had to ask me for clarification. AsmodeusTheAdder03 (talk)

No, there is nothing confusing about this. I asked you for your reference so I could investigate the scene myself. Clear this is a dream. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 03:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

It's technically part of the same "dream" you just had problems with me calling one, but whatever, it seemed like you didn't even know what I was referring to here. Anyways, you're angry at me just tell me. AsmodeusTheAdder03 (talk)

It's clearly two separate things. The dream of Bella is called a "dream" in Chapter 9. Please read closer. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 19:37, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Was the "vision" ever called such? AsmodeusTheAdder03 21:37, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

If you're editing articles without using the books as a reference, and then asking me to do the book research for you, that's an issue. Please don't make edits based on memories of reading a book. Verify the information by using the book. And if you don't have a copy of the book, then don't make the edit. The sequence with the Badger Lords is not described as anything, but because we know the definition of the word "vision", it is a vision. This is all quite clear in the text, and with context clues. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 23:39, 30 July 2023 (UTC)