Talk:Gingivere Greeneyes

Blaggut

If he is a hero, then so is Blaggut. The Fivemole File:Grumm.jpg ^{Burr Aye, Gurt Zurrs!!} 03:43, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Is there anything to the Trivia about his name? I see the connection but it doesn't match Gingivere well. Inber Ashtail (talk) 20:08, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

GREY!?!?!

how can he be gray!!! HES PERFECTLY GOOD NEVA DID ANYTHING EVIL!!!Burglebuber (talk) 02:20, August 30, 2013 (UTC)Burglebuber

You're right! Also, cats aren't even a total evil species! There aren't many of them, and 3 are perfectly good.--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 15:14, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

How is he a hero, a villain, and a grey character at the same time?--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 22:46, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Alderjack, cats are villains by an enormous majority (17 named cats are villains out of 20 named cats, and this is further pushed on by the fact that the entire Feral Cat Army, of which most members were unnamed cats, were all villains. So Gingivere is an unusual wildcat when he behaves as a hero- i.e., he breaks the status quo, meaning he is a "grey character". He's a hero because he was especially heroic in his capacity as a grey character. File:Biggrensignature.gif(Tuûr!) 23:17, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

He may in fact be the only one who is all three ;) His species makes him a 'villain' de facto on this resource. That's for sorting purposes. He's grey because his species is normally comprised of villains. He's a hero for taking on his sister and aiding woodlanders in their quest for freedom. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 00:23, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess he IS all three! :)--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 15:04, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

You could say that to some extent, Romsca, Blaggut and Squire Julian Gingivere are also heroes. Blaggut, while a searat, clearly sides with the Redwallers and even kills his own captain to stop him from harming goodbeasts. Squire Julian helps Matthias in his quest to find Martin's sword and later helps in the battle for the Abbey. (On a side note, he isn't in the 'villains' category either.) Romsca, while not as firmly on the 'good' side as the others, still 'aids woodlanders in their quest for freedom': she is kind to Durral and Viola and, like Gingivere, opposes a villain and takes the woodlanders' side. Unlike Gingivere, she fights and manages to kill her enemy, who is easily one of the three (maybe four) main villains in Pearls of Lutra. These three have all been quite heroic at some point. --Spirea Sixclaw ^Talk! 11:18, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for backing them up, Spirea.--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 15:03, May 30, 2015 (UTC)