Talk:Groddil

In my mind Groddil is a grey character. He never chose to be a vermin, but was forced by Ungatt. He hated Trunn. He never hurt a badger lord or a salamandastron hare. He hunted for them, but he was forced by Trunn. He was forced to do bad things he never chose it. Burglebuber (talk) 18:21, August 5, 2013 (UTC)Burglebuber

Groddil is definitely a gray character. He did order the death of Lord Stonepaw, but it was out of fear of Ungatt Trunn. And like you say, he never wanted to be a vermin anyway. Sayna the Warrior 04:43, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

However, he did order the death of a good creature, abandoned his master (even though his master was cruel to him), and probably caused the deaths of hundreds of goodbeasts throughout his life. --Snowstripe File:Urthstripe.jpgYou're always welcome at my mountain. 16:57, August 10, 2015 (UTC)