Talk:Grumpy Watervole

Could someone demonstrate a page reference on how he died? --LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 11:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, Brad, you're right. 'Twas Magger who was killed by a stab from behind. Book reference following:

pg. 264, Philomel edition:

Bending backward, he [the bankvole] looked up into the leering face of Magger. The weasel was standing atop a knoll, holding a boulder over his head. before the startled vole could move, the big stone crashed down, slaying him outright.

I hate to point this out, but...

He hardly deserves to be called a "grey character." He doesn't do one thing good, in fact he is evil thruoughout the book (almost killing sister atrata (i believe) killing a bird and eating it (er spitting it) and thretens to kill orkwil several times. He was never mistreated by orkwil, but he was bad toward him, so he kinda had it comming. Why would you call him a grey character? Sambrook the otter 23:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

He's a woodlander and not a villain. Plain and simple. --LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 03:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Good enough for me. Sambrook the otter 14:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Nameless characters

What is the criteria for determining whether a nameless character is significant enough to merit a page. I am not questioning the selection of the Grumpy Watervole, I'm just asking what determines whether others, for example the old fox toward the end of 'Rakkety Tam' who served under all three wolverines, are also deserving of pages. —This unsigned comment was added by 99.98.209.91 (talk • contribs) 01:52, April 8, 2011. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

The criteria is that nameless characters really don't deserve pages. This character was an exception to the rule, given his prominence in the story. -- LordTBT File:Tbtico.jpg ^Talk! 04:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

This criteria doesn’t make sense. There are plenty of named characters who have just as little relevance as unnamed ones. By this logic, no one qualifying as an “extra” should have an article. AsmodeusTheAdder03 (talk) 05:30, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Uuuuggggghh. Someone just took Grumpy Watervole off the villains category again. Just because he's a vole a, "goodbeast", doesn't mean he can cut it for being in the grey area. He steals the Sword of Martin, acts like a complete jerk and threatens to shoot Orkwil, murders a Sister of Redwall, and kills and eats a bird. No way he is not a villain!--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 01:15, March 3, 2015 (UTC)Alderjack the Treescamp

Whoops. Someone proved my point 7 years ago. I second that, Sambrook!--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 01:17, March 3, 2015 (UTC)Alderjack the Treescamp