Talk:Ripfang (Lord Brocktree)
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[edit]Q: In Mossflower there is a searat captain Ripfang. In Lord Brocktree there is another searat captain Ripfang. Are both these searat captains the same animal? A: No just a coincidence
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--LordTBT 02:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
This is weird, as there is a definite implication that it is the same Ripfang - the Brocktree Ripfang says he dreams of a badger warrior who looks like Brocktree, but is not Brocktree. Surely this is a reference to Mossflower Ripfang and his eventual death at the hands of Brocktree's son, Boar?
- No, twould be impossible for a searat to out live a badger and a half. I have pondered that same question, and the simple answer is, no.--Lord Mactalon 01:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Since Jacques specifically stated that they are not the same rat, I came up with an alternative. To avoid confusion, I'll call the Ripfang from Lord Brocktree Ripfang 1 and the one from Mossflower Ripfang 2. My theory is that Ripfang 2 is Ripfang 1's son. Just bear with me here. Examining the evidence points just as much to father/son as to them being the same rat. There are several seasons between the two books where the Bloodwake and its captain are unaccounted for. Father/son combos aren't unheard of (eg. Ferahgo and Klitch, Swart and Veil). Both, as previously stated, show the same traits. Martin looked and acted like Luke when he was a young mouse. The clinching evidence, though, is this. Ripfang 1 held a grudge against Salamandastron and the badger lords for the above stated reasons, yadda yadda yadda. Naturally, grudges of this kind are passed from father to son! Ripfang 2 would have inherited the grudge Ripfang 1 had toward the mountain, along with several other traits and appearences. That's my theory, anyway.
207.67.93.148 01:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I think this Ripfang is the father of the Ripfang from the Mossflower book.The Woodland Warrior 15:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
It also says that Ripfang 2 had been to Salamandastron...... How does that work? Awavian - HAWAAY THE BRAAW!! 16:21, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
In these 'empty seasons' where Ripfang is unaccounted for, Ripfang 2 could have 'visited' Salamandastron in a night raid. --John-EFight! 17:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
Dream a Little Dream
[edit]Could be that badgers were use to repramend young naughty vermin, like Cluny was to naughty young Redwallers.
Whinny sherat voice: "Ripfang, wash your hands or a badger will bop you on the head. Ripfang, sharpen those blades right or a badger will tan your hide. Share the loot with your brother, or a badger will split you in two."
Alockwood1 (talk) 15:45, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, probably. Imagine you are a tiny ratbabe and a badger thunders in and devours you because you didn't share your roasted seagull with your brother. Pretty encouraging, though. XD--Alderjack the Treescamp (talk) 02:37, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
Possible. Alockwood1 (talk) 13:42, April 5, 2015 (UTC)